My father passed away in February 1967 and was buried at Oakwell Cemetery. My 40 year old mother never remarried. While we were going to the cemetary over the next few months, from our home in Woodland Hills, we noticed a wonderful park nearby, Chatsworth Park. That became one of my mother's favorite places to take me for the next few years. In later years, 1970-73 we used to joke and constantly think about meeting Manson Family members. Of course the key members were already in prison by that time anyway, and old man Spahn kicked the entire family out in late August 1969 because they set a tractor on fire. They then moved to Death Valley before the arrests of Manson, Atkins, and others. So for many years, while we were often thinking about the Manson family just over the hill, they weren't actually there, just boogeymen in our minds.
One time around 1972 we took a long hike up the hill to see Spahn Ranch. We basically didn't see anything from the top of the hill and decided to turn back, somewhat shaking with fear.
Much later, on August 7, 1979, while I was visiting LA from San Diego, a friend took me and his girlfriend to ride horses at the Spahn Ranch. My skill with horses was very poor, and my horse never left the front area. My friend and his girlfriend took off and I didn't see them for an hour. Before we had left for the ranch that day, he had noted the date and that's why visiting the ranch became the plan for the day. We were expecting a crowd but were the only ones there.
Sometime before I had even heard the name Manson, and it could have been August 1969*, we took a whole bunch of friends to Chatsworth Park. I was 13 years old, and this was our biggest BBQ there ever. I believe our entourage included Canadian born friends from Buena Park on the other side of LA and we might have come from there in several cars. That time, as I was climbing one of the rocks, a young adult with a Vagrant Jesus look, came and asked me a few questions. I could tell he was not from LA, his voice sounded country to me. But to my dismay, he was not some vagrant moron, he was very very smart, and soon had me rhetorically tricked up. Now I had never used drugs myself, but I had heard one of my best friends talk about them a lot, and I knew the song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, and so very strangely I decided to try to argue for my cityfried superiority by saying we had better stuff. He mentioned a whole bunch of names and places in an instant that showed me he knew about those things much better than me and then left, going north. I never saw if he had talked with anyone else. I remembered that I had a strange conversation, but never realized it could have been Manson until writing this--because I wasn't thinking about Manson at the time, and was unsure about the timing (*I still am--this could have been as early as 1967 I think now, but previously I had been thinking it was 1963, but putting things together now I see it could not have been earlier than 1967). Spahn Ranch is about 2 miles from Chatsworth Park. It's a hilly and interesting climb, but someone knowing the terrain could probably do it in an hour. The whole hilly area behind the park may be fenced off now, but it wasn't then, there were no fences until about 1973.
It's strange that the one time I might actually have met Manson I wasn't thinking about him or anyone like him, and later thought of him all the time.
My mother had long had an interest, and very loose association (maybe once a decade she attended some meeting) with right wing groups. But perhaps the most interesting thing we did was travel almost weekly after my father died, to a trailer home my mother had purchased in 1967 with the insurance money from my father's death, and moved to Playa Santa Monica near Rosarito Beach in Baja California, Mexico. In July 1968 my mother bought a new car, which was then joyously used to take many of my friends to our little home on the beach (we had a beach front lot--something my mother had always dreamed about, for $35 a month). It was one of those friends who introduced me to the Beatles music, with a tape player he brought with him. That was the friend who gave me all the background on sex, drugs, and rock n roll, not that we ever used any drugs together (except sometimes my mother served beer or wine, and once I tried a tobacco cigarette, which gave me the worst buzz ever. We talked a lot about the sexy girl three trailers over from our corner lot. But I never had the nerve to even talk to her, and he wasn't doing much better. But one night when my mother had stepped out, the girl and one of her friends came over. We had a wonderful visit, but never followed up with more visits after that. And then, by the summer of 1970 my Fonzie friend with movie star relatives had left Los Angeles. I never went over to the third trailer until many years later--1984. The girl wasn't there, but the parents were very nice and made me a drink immediately. I believe I had a White Russian.
Since the 1990's I've had this strange idea that the one-time visitor, a cousin of the girl from the third trailer (and this was vacation home for them as well as us) is actually someone quite well known and wealthy, and I've recently traced the (presumed) family fortunes to a large increase in 1969.
That visitor might have been an example of someone who might have been closer to the top in the pyramid of connections. I have no information that would suggest my mother might have been anything but an unwitting courier, and it never seemed she had any money. She did like right wing and racist rhetoric, though she didn't seek it out much. But she was still young and gregarious in the 1970's, and also had a Mexican boyfriend, who was a married government official from Mexico City, who himself had a work home in Rosarito Beach; she would meet and dance with him at bars in Rosarito Beach.
My friend who left in the summer of 1970 one time deliberately (or accidentally as he claimed) left a fire cracker on the floor in the back before we went through the border checkpoint. It was not noticed.
I believe it was July of 1969 that my mother bought me a motorcycle, a Honda 90 (street) to ride the trails in and around the trailer park. So did all the kids and young adults, including the girl from the third trailer. Most everyone had a more powerful or dirt ready bike than me, and I was pretty wimpy about not taking the hard climbs. My fonzie friend would do a bit more than me, but not much more. We never mixed much with the other kids (who often had beach parties) either, a situation which continued after he left, and then I spent more time at home and with high school friends in LA. We did spend considerable time with one nice disability retired man and his unmarried daughter, who had moved a whole old house to the trailer park. We played cards at his house. Later more and more of the trailers were replaced with custom built houses, high priced custom houses.
Most likely mother and I wouldn't have gone to Chatsworth Park and Mexico in the same week. But in summertime, we might have. My mother had a lot of energy. We could have had BBQ at the park on a Friday afternoon and then driven to Mexico for that night for the weekend, or even an entire week. I saw the first Man on the Moon on a TV at the beach trailer, a night when our Lutheran minister from Los Angeles was also there visiting us.
My mother was strongly against the use of illegal drugs. There was little she cared about more. She wasn't happy about me growing up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood, and surrounded by a culture that seemed to embrace sex, drugs, and rock n roll. She wanted to move away from LA, and have me go to high school in Mexico, or possibly San Diego. We never found the right opportunity. I was perfectly happy with our home in Los Angeles, my friends there, and the schools, and I spent less and less time going to Mexico after the summer of 1970. None of my remaining friends in LA had much to say about drugs until after high school. My mother sold our home in 1974, the year after I left for college, and moved to live in Mexico, but work in San Diego, for the next decade.
One time around 1972 we took a long hike up the hill to see Spahn Ranch. We basically didn't see anything from the top of the hill and decided to turn back, somewhat shaking with fear.
Much later, on August 7, 1979, while I was visiting LA from San Diego, a friend took me and his girlfriend to ride horses at the Spahn Ranch. My skill with horses was very poor, and my horse never left the front area. My friend and his girlfriend took off and I didn't see them for an hour. Before we had left for the ranch that day, he had noted the date and that's why visiting the ranch became the plan for the day. We were expecting a crowd but were the only ones there.
Sometime before I had even heard the name Manson, and it could have been August 1969*, we took a whole bunch of friends to Chatsworth Park. I was 13 years old, and this was our biggest BBQ there ever. I believe our entourage included Canadian born friends from Buena Park on the other side of LA and we might have come from there in several cars. That time, as I was climbing one of the rocks, a young adult with a Vagrant Jesus look, came and asked me a few questions. I could tell he was not from LA, his voice sounded country to me. But to my dismay, he was not some vagrant moron, he was very very smart, and soon had me rhetorically tricked up. Now I had never used drugs myself, but I had heard one of my best friends talk about them a lot, and I knew the song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, and so very strangely I decided to try to argue for my cityfried superiority by saying we had better stuff. He mentioned a whole bunch of names and places in an instant that showed me he knew about those things much better than me and then left, going north. I never saw if he had talked with anyone else. I remembered that I had a strange conversation, but never realized it could have been Manson until writing this--because I wasn't thinking about Manson at the time, and was unsure about the timing (*I still am--this could have been as early as 1967 I think now, but previously I had been thinking it was 1963, but putting things together now I see it could not have been earlier than 1967). Spahn Ranch is about 2 miles from Chatsworth Park. It's a hilly and interesting climb, but someone knowing the terrain could probably do it in an hour. The whole hilly area behind the park may be fenced off now, but it wasn't then, there were no fences until about 1973.
It's strange that the one time I might actually have met Manson I wasn't thinking about him or anyone like him, and later thought of him all the time.
My mother had long had an interest, and very loose association (maybe once a decade she attended some meeting) with right wing groups. But perhaps the most interesting thing we did was travel almost weekly after my father died, to a trailer home my mother had purchased in 1967 with the insurance money from my father's death, and moved to Playa Santa Monica near Rosarito Beach in Baja California, Mexico. In July 1968 my mother bought a new car, which was then joyously used to take many of my friends to our little home on the beach (we had a beach front lot--something my mother had always dreamed about, for $35 a month). It was one of those friends who introduced me to the Beatles music, with a tape player he brought with him. That was the friend who gave me all the background on sex, drugs, and rock n roll, not that we ever used any drugs together (except sometimes my mother served beer or wine, and once I tried a tobacco cigarette, which gave me the worst buzz ever. We talked a lot about the sexy girl three trailers over from our corner lot. But I never had the nerve to even talk to her, and he wasn't doing much better. But one night when my mother had stepped out, the girl and one of her friends came over. We had a wonderful visit, but never followed up with more visits after that. And then, by the summer of 1970 my Fonzie friend with movie star relatives had left Los Angeles. I never went over to the third trailer until many years later--1984. The girl wasn't there, but the parents were very nice and made me a drink immediately. I believe I had a White Russian.
Since the 1990's I've had this strange idea that the one-time visitor, a cousin of the girl from the third trailer (and this was vacation home for them as well as us) is actually someone quite well known and wealthy, and I've recently traced the (presumed) family fortunes to a large increase in 1969.
That visitor might have been an example of someone who might have been closer to the top in the pyramid of connections. I have no information that would suggest my mother might have been anything but an unwitting courier, and it never seemed she had any money. She did like right wing and racist rhetoric, though she didn't seek it out much. But she was still young and gregarious in the 1970's, and also had a Mexican boyfriend, who was a married government official from Mexico City, who himself had a work home in Rosarito Beach; she would meet and dance with him at bars in Rosarito Beach.
My friend who left in the summer of 1970 one time deliberately (or accidentally as he claimed) left a fire cracker on the floor in the back before we went through the border checkpoint. It was not noticed.
I believe it was July of 1969 that my mother bought me a motorcycle, a Honda 90 (street) to ride the trails in and around the trailer park. So did all the kids and young adults, including the girl from the third trailer. Most everyone had a more powerful or dirt ready bike than me, and I was pretty wimpy about not taking the hard climbs. My fonzie friend would do a bit more than me, but not much more. We never mixed much with the other kids (who often had beach parties) either, a situation which continued after he left, and then I spent more time at home and with high school friends in LA. We did spend considerable time with one nice disability retired man and his unmarried daughter, who had moved a whole old house to the trailer park. We played cards at his house. Later more and more of the trailers were replaced with custom built houses, high priced custom houses.
Most likely mother and I wouldn't have gone to Chatsworth Park and Mexico in the same week. But in summertime, we might have. My mother had a lot of energy. We could have had BBQ at the park on a Friday afternoon and then driven to Mexico for that night for the weekend, or even an entire week. I saw the first Man on the Moon on a TV at the beach trailer, a night when our Lutheran minister from Los Angeles was also there visiting us.
My mother was strongly against the use of illegal drugs. There was little she cared about more. She wasn't happy about me growing up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood, and surrounded by a culture that seemed to embrace sex, drugs, and rock n roll. She wanted to move away from LA, and have me go to high school in Mexico, or possibly San Diego. We never found the right opportunity. I was perfectly happy with our home in Los Angeles, my friends there, and the schools, and I spent less and less time going to Mexico after the summer of 1970. None of my remaining friends in LA had much to say about drugs until after high school. My mother sold our home in 1974, the year after I left for college, and moved to live in Mexico, but work in San Diego, for the next decade.